Latex layer as a compliant surface
Posted: 06 October 2008 09:03 AM   [ Ignore ]
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I’ve been reading the guide book of the IEEE TableTops 2008 and noticed they found that a thin layer of latex would work as a compliant surface. Has someone already used it? What about the thinness? Where could I buy it?

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Gonzalo.

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Posted: 06 October 2008 09:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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hi , GOnzalo,

the reference should be in that guide . so you should ask them .

the company is 4DRUBBER , the sample showed @ the IEEE was a bit yellowish so that fades and tints a bit the image ..

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Posted: 06 October 2008 09:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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jimihertz - 06 October 2008 09:18 AM

hi , GOnzalo,

the reference should be in that guide . so you should ask them .

the company is 4DRUBBER , the sample showed @ the IEEE was a bit yellowish so that fades and tints a bit the image ..

Thanks jimihertx. In the guide I cannot find the reference to 4DRUBBER or other so I’ll appreciate any information about how it worked. You say it faded and tinted the image, I guess finding a clearer layer should improve functionality. However, http://www.4drubber.com is inaccessible at the moment.

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Posted: 06 October 2008 10:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Any experience with HP Colorlucent Backlit UV used as a projection layer and combined with the latex will also be helpful.

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Posted: 06 October 2008 11:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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We were also inspired by the ieee tabletop workshoptongue laugh

I have just ordered a piece of transperens latex here: http://www.latexpermeter.com/

As soon as I have tried it I will post the results.

btw: There were also ppl using a silicon lubricant on the bare acrylic. I have tried it, but the results are not shocking. Maybe there are differt types of silicon spray?

I have used: kroon-oil

[edit]When I spray more of the silicon on the acrylic it works ok!!! [/edit]

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Posted: 06 October 2008 01:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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I was looking into this also have reading the paper. Lets us know how the latex sheet goes tunabreath. The main benefit is that the latex isn’t adhered to the acrylic. Adhering a compliant surface directly to the acrylic lessens blob brightness as the light is attenuated, thus why tinkerman’s method works well.

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Posted: 06 October 2008 05:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Tunabreath - 06 October 2008 11:36 AM

We were also inspired by the ieee tabletop workshoptongue laugh

I have just ordered a piece of transperens latex here: http://www.latexpermeter.com/

As soon as I have tried it I will post the results.

btw: There were also ppl using a silicon lubricant on the bare acrylic. I have tried it, but the results are not shocking. Maybe there are differt types of silicon spray?

I have used: kroon-oil

[edit]When I spray more of the silicon on the acrylic it works ok!!! [/edit]

Regards,

Randy

Which item did you choose in latexpermeter.com? I guess it was one of these two:

**Semi–transp., Naturel, 0.20 mm, 92 cm breed/wide
prijs per strekkende meter, in euro`s, (0.20 mm thickness, 92 cm wide.)

**Semi–transp., Naturel, 0.33 mm, 92 cm breed/wide
prijs per strekkende meter, in euro`s, (0.33 mm thickness, 92 cm wide.)

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Gonzalo.

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Posted: 06 October 2008 05:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Make sure you don’t have a latex allergy… wink

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Posted: 07 October 2008 10:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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The Latex method works very well indeed. I extensively tested both approaches, Silicon and Latex, on the Bootcamp at Tabletop ‘08.

I found that
- Latex seems to produce darker, but still very usable blobs
- is definitely much easier to apply to the surface
- doesn’t stick, so you get no more trails as compared to silicon

Seems we just found yet another good compliant surface!

We just ordered some Latex from 4DRubber to use it in our own setup at the institute, but i’ll also give Tinkermans Roll-On Technique a shot.

cheers

Tobias

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codey - 07 October 2008 10:25 AM

The Latex method works very well indeed. I extensively tested both approaches, Silicon and Latex, on the Bootcamp at Tabletop ‘08.

I found that
- Latex seems to produce darker, but still very usable blobs
- is definitely much easier to apply to the surface
- doesn’t stick, so you get no more trails as compared to silicon

Seems we just found yet another good compliant surface!

We just ordered some Latex from 4DRubber to use it in our own setup at the institute, but i’ll also give Tinkermans Roll-On Technique a shot.


cheers

Tobias

Hi,

which material have you used as a projection surface? HP Colorlucent Backlit UV?

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Posted: 12 November 2008 05:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Gonzalo,

you’ve mentioned “guide book of the IEEE TableTops 2008”? What’s that, a book for the ppl o attended the conference?
Can you provide a copy of that?

Thanks.

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Posted: 12 November 2008 07:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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gonzalo - 04 November 2008 09:11 AM

codey - 07 October 2008 10:25 AM
The Latex method works very well indeed. I extensively tested both approaches, Silicon and Latex, on the Bootcamp at Tabletop ‘08.

I found that
- Latex seems to produce darker, but still very usable blobs
- is definitely much easier to apply to the surface
- doesn’t stick, so you get no more trails as compared to silicon

Seems we just found yet another good compliant surface!

We just ordered some Latex from 4DRubber to use it in our own setup at the institute, but i’ll also give Tinkermans Roll-On Technique a shot.


cheers

Tobias

Hi,

which material have you used as a projection surface? HP Colorlucent Backlit UV?

Regards

Hi Gonzalo,

no, we used Rosco Grey for projection, but we found that it really pretty much darkens the picture. We’re now going for Vellum instead.

Cheers

Codey

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