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My home made multi touch screen
Posted: 27 January 2012 05:36 AM   [ Ignore ]
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G’day from Sydney.

To begin with, I would like to THANK YOU all People from this community to share their ideas, time, and experience with the world. =)
As specially programers of CCV and bsquang for his BSQSimulator for Windows 7.

THANK YOU VERY VERY VERY MUCH guys!!!

Secondly, I would like to share with you my finished project. It may not be perfect but I am very happy with the final version of it.

this is the link to youtube with a Pre-final version of a screen (without pastic). So, people would see the structure of the “table”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGIZeJmPPHQ&context=C3e9626eADOEgsToPDskKsHl_VeREXIByvqq4fXLv3

I spend on this screen around $1000 and 148 hours. Its a DSI table.

The pictures below shows the final version.

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Posted: 27 January 2012 02:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Nice work. Slick design. Congratulations.

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Posted: 27 January 2012 04:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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congratulations very nice concept. what is it designed/supposed for? could you also plz post some more details on your used parts and hardware? did you use any gestures-software? just asking because you scroll with two fingers and tried a right click with long pressing that doesnt worked well

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Posted: 27 January 2012 04:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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ISoree,

I’ve been able to bring up a context menu (right click) in Windows 7 using 2 different methods. A long press creates a white circle around where you are touching and after a second or two the context menu pops up. The other way is to put one finger down and then tap a second finger next to it. Using BSQ, the first method works best but not so much when using the HID driver. With the HID driver, the second method is preferred.

I’m not sure if this is the case for everyone but this has been my experience.

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Posted: 27 January 2012 07:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Hello Guys,

Thank you.

It was designed for home use, to replace my computer desk.
I am using it on daily bases. at the beginning it was not comfortable at all. because the screen was too big. So, I made it a bit smaller.

hardware:
RAM 4 GB
CPU Pentium
motherboard MSI

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Windows 7 32 Bit
BSQSimulator for Windows 7 (a bit modified to start automatically (connect to CCV) after windows startup)

about 2 fingers to scroll. on my first prototypes I used Windows Vista and I am a Mac user. So, by mistake I was using 2 fingers to scroll. I did not have any idea that you can scroll only with one finger on Win7… The video on you tube is one month old. I figured out that only a few weeks ago. =(

For screen I used a 6mm Plexiglas with polished conners for IR LEDs. and drafting film(in final version) which I glued to the back side of the screen. before it was a trased paper which was changing it shape and structure because of the weather conditions.

Side effect of using a drafting film behind the plexiglas is that screen become very glossy on the sun (even if you use projector with 2700 lumens). but at night or in darkness its all good.

the black plastic is a 2mm plexiglass too. and the other materials are aluminium and normal steel. all parts joined with bolts. So, it can be moved to other pace.

regarding to bring up a context menu (right click). As Coffeegod said there are 2 ways to do so. it did not work well in my case because of settings in CCV (it learned to fast). Now it works fine.

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Posted: 28 January 2012 02:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Could you plz share how your bsq starts and connects automaticly with Windows? I asked this also in the bsq threat but with n answer yet :(

so you are touching the endlighten directly with no scratchresistant material in front of it?

anyway its a pretty nice home-pc wink

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Posted: 28 January 2012 07:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Hi ISoree,

BSQSimulator does not have functionality to connect automatically to CCV. But bsquang was very kind to share a full project with us.
If you wanna I can upload the modified source code.
Forgot to tell that I am using a CCV 1.4.

Regarding touching the plexiglas directly with no scratch resistant material. Yes, I do.

Its not that easy to scratch plexiglas with your fingers. But in the beginning its a very hard to move fingers on the clean surface.

The Screen consist only of 2 layers.

------------ Plexiglas 6mm
------------ AIR (not really a layer)
------------ Drafting film 1mm

But its a good to know that if you glue the drafting film to the plexiglas the IR light will reflect from the glued drafting film and you will have extremely low sensitivity in the middle of the screen and extremely high close to IR LEDs.
Also, remember the plexiglas MUST be clear from any type of dents or stretches. Because all these things reflets the IR light.

To be honest, I do not really recommend this type of setup to use.
Because the main disadvantage that is really bother me is 7-8 mm distance between my finger and projected image… =(
But it’s really cheaper than the Evonik plexiglas… It’s really difficult to buy that material in Sydney and expansive…

Maybe, in the future I will go with the Evonik plexiglass setup.

Right now, I am more interesting in setups with LCD screens. Because I am planning to built for myself a coffee table for the living-room.

Are you working on any kind of projects?

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Posted: 29 January 2012 04:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Hi,

if you could share the modified version of your bsq simulator in the owners threat it would be perfect. I think there are also some other that would have use of it.

Yes i know its hard to scratch the endlighten with your fingers but it is possible and if your planning to get a coffetable you’ll get massive problems with that. Dust will work like a soft sandpaper under your fingers, a cup of coffee or a glas on the table will do the rest. It will scratch pretty easy and often without a security layer.

The Evonik rearprojections are much cost intensive then a drafting film but will work better in my opinion. No need to glue it, very high viewing angle and a MUCH better picture at daylight. But i prefer now a other plexiglas from evonik that is not realy a rearprojection but works like it - and will be much cheaper (later more).

Yes I’ve currently worked on my coffeetable for the livingroom. It’s a 40’’ DSI Setup with a total height of 62cm. As soon its completly finished i’ll post it right here. But i still need some parts for optical finish and a bit more time for software realted stuff.

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Posted: 29 January 2012 07:19 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Hi ISoree,

I will upload project tomorrow. I am at work at this moment.

Regarding my coffee table. I am going to use LCD setup and of course I will go with a transparent layer for the plexiglas top cover.

Good luck with your project.

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Posted: 29 January 2012 09:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Very nice!  I really like the open design and the encasement is lovely!

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Posted: 29 January 2012 07:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Thank you! =)

the file was uploaded.

http://nuigroup.com/forums/viewthread/13019/P105/

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Posted: 01 February 2012 08:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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------------ Plexiglas 6mm
------------ AIR (not really a layer)
------------ Drafting film 1mm

Haha, AIR, good one mate, got a laugh there.

Interesting design though, what have your friends thought about it?

By the way, click the link in my signature, I’m trying to gather all the Australian NUI members, so we can help each other and collaborate together on what local “Aussie” parts have worked for people.

Hey, what part of Sydney are you from? I’m over in Penrith.

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Posted: 01 February 2012 09:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Thanks mate.

My friends love that table. heh =)

I am from Kensington.

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Posted: 01 February 2012 10:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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My Coworker’s dad is a carpenter, so I caught up with him to ask him how we’re gonna build a touch table that’s capable of being brought to various locations. So we’ve worked out how to design it to be folded down and transported by station wagon and whatnot.

Table is going to cost about $650 in parts and labour, but it will be built proper. If I build it, it’s liable to fall apart on me wink

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Posted: 01 February 2012 11:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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iTrooper - 01 February 2012 10:04 PM

My Coworker’s dad is a carpenter, so I caught up with him to ask him how we’re gonna build a touch table that’s capable of being brought to various locations. So we’ve worked out how to design it to be folded down and transported by station wagon and whatnot.

Table is going to cost about $650 in parts and labour, but it will be built proper. If I build it, it’s liable to fall apart on me wink

amm you have very optimistic price tag here. based on my experience, this is not the end. you may spend more that $650. unless I are very experience. my budget was 790. I end up with $1128… =(

Good luck mate. Would love to see your project in person.

by the way, how old are you?

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Posted: 02 February 2012 12:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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That’s what my coworker’s Carpenter dad said it would cost for the glass and parts (he must know some people he deals with often to get the price that low).

We’re still up in the air regarding the surface material. Glass or Perspex. Perspex scratches easily, unless it’s scratch proof and asking Aussie shops for that seems tricky, some of the shops have no clue about it. Only seems the American shops know what we’re talking about.

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