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Posted: 07 September 2008 06:32 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Hey Guys,

I’m trying to find a transparent IR Blocking film or plastic. There’s a few ones from big companies that offer very expensive materials. Anyone know of a make shift IR blocking transparent material, or a cheap one I could find?

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Posted: 07 September 2008 07:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I think you’re talking about an IR filter-the most popular ones seem to be exposed photo negatives or the magnetic part of a floppy disk.
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Posted: 07 September 2008 07:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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No, I really mean IR Blocking. I want something to cover my touch surface to block out ambient IR light. Thanks for trying though wink

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Posted: 07 September 2008 08:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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You can look at window tinting films they usually add more contrast to the image but they can do a decent job of blocking IR. You can also use Rosco Grey that blocks a fair ammount of IR

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Posted: 07 September 2008 08:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Oh, sorry. I understand what you’re talking about now. How about rosco grey or rosco black? Not sure if it is particularly cheap, but I think I read in a forum thread somewhere that you could get a yard (not sure how you could measure it in linear units, but whatever) for $14 + shipping. Ah, here’s the link: http://nuigroup.com/forums/viewthread/502/

EDIT: whoops, didn’t see Taha’s reply. sry.

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Posted: 10 September 2008 08:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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rbedi100 - 07 September 2008 08:30 PM

Oh, sorry. I understand what you’re talking about now. How about rosco grey or rosco black? Not sure if it is particularly cheap, but I think I read in a forum thread somewhere that you could get a yard (not sure how you could measure it in linear units, but whatever) for $14 + shipping. Ah, here’s the link: http://nuigroup.com/forums/viewthread/502/

EDIT: whoops, didn’t see Taha’s reply. sry.

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Well, you’re getting closer! smile Look at my first thread “IR blocking transparent material”. Transparent cause I’m using a LCD as opposed to a projector, so the rosco diffusers won’t work for my application.

The window films might work though, hmm…

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Posted: 10 September 2008 08:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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It will be hard to get good blobs if you block out to much. You will block your finger touches.

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Posted: 10 September 2008 09:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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*Face Palm* Ok, let me make this more simple.

.-’Environment IR light’-.
‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘

------------------ IR Blocking film and touch surface. The Environment IR light is blocked here.
^^^^^^^^^^ Silicon Layer.
========== Acrylic Surface - The blobs are here, NOT going through IR Blocking.
|||||||||||||||||| LCD Matrix + Backlight.

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Posted: 10 September 2008 09:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Sniperchang - 10 September 2008 08:22 PM

rbedi100 - 07 September 2008 08:30 PM
Oh, sorry. I understand what you’re talking about now. How about rosco grey or rosco black? Not sure if it is particularly cheap, but I think I read in a forum thread somewhere that you could get a yard (not sure how you could measure it in linear units, but whatever) for $14 + shipping. Ah, here’s the link: http://nuigroup.com/forums/viewthread/502/

EDIT: whoops, didn’t see Taha’s reply. sry.

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Well, you’re getting closer! smile Look at my first thread “IR blocking transparent material”. Transparent cause I’m using a LCD as opposed to a projector, so the rosco diffusers won’t work for my application.

The window films might work though, hmm...

Ahhh ok...I see now. I have no idea smile
Good luck though…
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Posted: 15 September 2008 11:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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i believe that i’ve read before, lexan is a great ir filter. you can get it as low as 1/32in x 24in x 48in sheet (film) for $6 or (for a bit stronger) 1/16in for $28. these are the first google link that pop’d up. so im sure they’re are alot cheaper.

and if you put on top of your silicone, you dont have to worry about stains.

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Posted: 15 September 2008 07:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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silverhawk_184 - 15 September 2008 11:44 AM

i believe that i’ve read before, lexan is a great ir filter. you can get it as low as 1/32in x 24in x 48in sheet (film) for $6 or (for a bit stronger) 1/16in for $28. these are the first google link that pop’d up. so im sure they’re are alot cheaper.

and if you put on top of your silicone, you dont have to worry about stains.

Great, thanks for the info. Is just normal lexan act as a ir filter, or do I need a special type lexan? Any links you may have would be appreciated.

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Posted: 16 September 2008 12:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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as i understand, any lexan should work, but all i can find right now are people talking about xl10, which is uv coated and doesn’t have anything to do with ir. if you live in the US, it might be worth going to Home Depot or Menards or ACE Hardware and buying a small “sample” piece and test with your camera.

or, if you have one, bring a handycam (or other camera with nightvision) and a small tv remote control and test. the worst that will happen is someone will look at you funny.

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Posted: 18 September 2008 07:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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I found a spectral emission graph for Lexan. (See this)

Looks like Lexan doesn’t block IR on it’s own.

Any other suggestions, or links, anything?

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Posted: 18 September 2008 10:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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wow, good find

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