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Posted: 21 January 2009 06:34 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Hello!

i made a concept for a multi touch tabletop computer to support small group design meetings.

What do you think of my ideas? especially the “Resting Hand Gesture”.

For more details on the concept, please visit http://dominickennedy.de/ba

thank you very much in advance!

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Posted: 21 January 2009 07:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I really enjoyed the video, made me wish I had such skills to even make and edit a video like that smile

As for the concept, it looks good.  The Resting Hand Gesture is an interesting one.  Assuming all 5 fingers went down, you’d have to simply run a loop to see if something like the area formed was small enough by the 5 touch points to be a pre-determined amount.  Ive coded in flash a loop for 3 fingers and it works quite well, so your idea would be good, though you may want to make it only need 3 fingers or so, as getting 5 nice blobs may be difficult.  Who knows though!  smile That’s what testing is all about.
The ideas of interactive office environment objects and tasks was what started visual windows, so why not the world of multi-touch getting a boost from the editable and interactive environment of the office/meeting.

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Posted: 21 January 2009 07:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Love the design, I think its a great idea. The problem is with the “Resting Hand Gesture” that I ran into, is when your using an application that sometimes requires your fingers to remain in 1 spot for a moment then the menu will pop up which would disrupt the application. If you made it so the menu only pops up at certain times or in a specific application then that would be great. I do love the idea though good job!

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Posted: 21 January 2009 07:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Wow! thank you both for your quick and nice replies! -may i copy them to my page (http://dominickennedy.de/ba) for my profs. to see?
i will respond to what you wrote tomorrow, as i am really tired now.. for now: thank you, really! :-Dominic

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Posted: 21 January 2009 07:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Wow, nice video! I like the paper clip smile

Very impressive UI...would love to see it built.

Here’s what jumped out at me the most, actually: the presence of non-finger objects on the table, both to serve a purpose and those just lying there. I think that really emphasizes the idea the MT can be integrated anywhere - office, school, wherever. The business cards, the coffee, the barcode thing...all make the setup seem truly integrated. I love the fact that in the video, around the 0:40 point, the users aren’t treating the table like its an extra - its a part of what they’re doing.

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Posted: 21 January 2009 07:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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rbedi100 - 21 January 2009 07:42 PM

I love the fact that in the video, around the 0:40 point, the users aren’t treating the table like its an extra - its a part of what they’re doing.
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Totally agree.  I really think an important part of multitouch is going to be the ease at which it becomes another part of our everyday lives.  When it becomes a less intuitive interaction with our machines, where the fact that your table, wall, etc has multitouch abilities and we just “use” it for everyday interactions, just like we use the mouse and keyboard, I think multitouch will have achieved it’s due place in the world of interaction between man and machine.

Cant wait to see more.  And of course you can quote me, right about me, etc.  There is lots of good stuff around these forums, and read up on the wiki too.

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Posted: 21 January 2009 08:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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I saw your vimeo video the other day CinimoD and thought it was nice. smile Would you consider the ‘resting hand’ as a ‘finger hold’?

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Posted: 21 January 2009 11:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Wow nice video and very interesting concept.

I share Microsofts view in that order for this technology to progress and disseminate to a wider audience you have to start commericially and with business.  Its refreshing to see a business based concept, the coffee thing probably goes too far but very cool nevertheless smile Kind of wish this was an actual app Id buy it tomorrow and just sit around pulling up documents and slapping digital paperclips on them smile great work.

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Posted: 22 January 2009 04:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Hey Dominic,

nice concept, cool video. I’m sure that some of all this new technology will get his way very soon in the office environment. A lot of that what you are showing is allready doable. There are some cool things out there. You may want to take a look at: http://mi-lab.org/projects/office-of-tomorrow/ and also the other projects of these fine people from Austria. I think your concept would be quite easily doable if you would use a front projection (from the ceiling). I would also evaluate if the Anoto concept could be implemented (for your handwriting stuff). You could also do some of the functions you are sketching out with the use of fiducials (actually we are in the building phase of a project where we are using fiducials on the TOP of a presentation surface - seems to work quite well). Ofcourse you would have to give up the fancy black surface of the table - but hey, nothing is perfect! wink Keep up the good work…

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Posted: 22 January 2009 05:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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sandor - 22 January 2009 04:15 AM

Hey Dominic,

I think your concept would be quite easily doable if you would use a front projection (from the ceiling).

Has anyone on the boards actually done this Sandor?

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Posted: 22 January 2009 06:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Simple stunning work man! keep up the great work and look forward to seeing more!

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Posted: 22 January 2009 10:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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PeauProductions - 21 January 2009 07:12 PM

The Resting Hand Gesture is an interesting one.  Assuming all 5 fingers went down, you’d have to simply run a loop to see if something like the area formed was small enough by the 5 touch points to be a pre-determined amount.  Ive coded in flash a loop for 3 fingers and it works quite well, so your idea would be good, though you may want to make it only need 3 fingers or so, as getting 5 nice blobs may be difficult.  Who knows though!  smile That’s what testing is all about.
The ideas of interactive office environment objects and tasks was what started visual windows, so why not the world of multi-touch getting a boost from the editable and interactive environment of the office/meeting.

i thought maybe some kind of whole-hand-recognition with an additional tracking point in the palm area ( - saw it on http://multitou.ch , although i can’t find the picture of it anymore; think it looked something like this:
WHR.jpg) could be helpful - it would also help to get the orientation for the menu buttons that grow from the user’s fingers.
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Posted: 22 January 2009 12:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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wow, Great prototyping skills !
i really like this coffee thing, it’s surely one of the next use of mt setups = an interface to interact with the real world .

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Posted: 22 January 2009 02:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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CinimoD - 22 January 2009 10:00 AM

i thought maybe some kind of whole-hand-recognition with an additional tracking point in the palm area ( - saw it on http://multitou.ch , although i can’t find the picture of it anymore; think it looked something like this: *** could be helpful - it would also help to get the orientation for the menu buttons that grow from the user’s fingers.

Hmmm....adding a tracker to a palm that was raised off the touch surface may be hard to get working, as you wouldnt want to calibrate the screen to produce blobs when you were not touching the screen.

Ive created my 3-finger menu launcher to simply find the incenter of the triangle that is created, which will work for me quite well, since I plan on setting the coordinates of the menu based on that center point.  You can easily do your finger launcher thing, though Im thinking that you will have to have it orient depending on what side of the surface you are closet to.  This is assuming you are using it in a “table” setup, a “wall” setup would always orient up and down.

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