Ok, I guess it is time to back up another ten yards and punt here. I am still unsuccessful at getting ccv 1.2 or 1.3 to run on my desktop even though it runs just fine on my laptop. For a bit I had thought that it had to be hardware related but I’m not so sure now. I think that there is possibly some software on my laptop that is not on my desktop that is allowing the laptop to work and not the desktop. So far what I have been told is to make sure I have quicktime and flash installed- which I do. Anything else? I have tried every suggestion from earlier threads I have posted with no prevail. I have tried to look for a beginners guide to ccv but nothing really pertaining to additional software needed to run ccv. ccv beta works by the way but why not 1.2 or 1.3? The ps3eye test works, but when I try to open ccv it crashes just before it opens all the way and wants to send an error to microsoft. Do I need the latest Java, Directx, Flash Player, etc? What could I be missing? I thought maybe doing a format and clean xp install would resolve the issue but now I think that I still dont have some piece of software needed for ccv. Any help please is much appreciated and thanks to those with ideas in my threads I posted earlier. I wish those ideas would have been a solution to my problem.